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Re: Do you think demons are evil?
Reply #44 - 08/10/12 at 20:57:09

Asar: I wish you would have said something like that in your first posts.

You make a great point that many do not consider. At I least I hadn't. Unfortunately I am not Christian either, nor do I think Lucifer is Satan (especially considering "satan" is simply an old insult), but do still find your point to be a very good one. If you are not Christian, then what do you view a demon as? I ask because the way you define demons is the Christian way, that they were once angels, and in many religions this is incorrect. It also implies, since in Christianity most demons "became" demons by sinning (from what I understand, please correct me if I'm wrong), that these demons are indeed always evil (especially for some branches of Christianity that claim that humans are evil, too) -- if they repent and became angels again, they would not be demons. How do you counter this?

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Re: Do you think demons are evil?
Reply #45 - 08/10/12 at 21:35:36

oc wrote on 08/10/12 at 20:57:09:

If you are not Christian, then what do you view a demon as?

A demon is a an energy being who has the basic abilities that all other demons has But has Advanced in one or two extra that other demons do not . Moreover; each demon has demons of the same power forming a clan.

If I address the magic demon for example: it will be calling one of that clan members . Because they live in a hierarchy tribal society where the whole clan has a certain power that differs them from other clans and they have their own symbols.

oc wrote on 08/10/12 at 20:57:09:

It also implies, since in Christianity most demons "became" demons by sinning (from what I understand, please correct me if I'm wrong), that these demons are indeed always evil

No dear you are wrong : if demons became demons by sinning then what were they before sinning? they were not evil before sinning.

oc wrote on 08/10/12 at 20:57:09:

(especially for some branches of Christianity that claim that humans are evil, too) -- if they repent and became angels again, they would not be demons. How do you counter this?

I have read the old and new testaments along with other religions.

In Christianity you go to the church to confess saying " forgive me father for i have sinned. Does that make you evil or a demon ?

In Islam you are asked to repent when you do bad deeds and that God is merciful and will forgive you if you are truly sorry and will make things up for the better . Is sinning make you PURE evil ?

I do think that Lucifer was an angel and he defied God but i do know that he was not created as the other angels were. I mean logically why
would an angel who knows and witnessed God power defy a force he cannot withstand a chance against ?

Now So many people know that a human being has both the good and bad seed implanted on but it is a matter of choice for us .

As for those who say you can manifest your thought and you can create a demon . I agree with them because we know that there is a supreme power ( God ) that is running things in a systematic way let alone different religions has similar things that implies they may have the same origin. We were created from this power and we may have some of its abilities like creating art and other things.

Tell me what do you think .

Sorry for making this long.

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Re: Do you think demons are evil?
Reply #46 - 08/11/12 at 00:28:30

Asar: It wasn't too long, don't worry.

Your response is very interesting.

Most of my thoughts stray from the topic of the thread, so I won't mention them on here. I will say some of your points did not quite add up -- "forgive me father for I have sinned" and being forgiven if you are truly sorry is not quite what anyone would view as demonic, and to apologize implies that you were sorry before hand and have felt bad, while many would claim that a demon was never sorry, feels justified, and anyhow does not think like a human being (though there are many "types" of thinking). However, for those who do believe demons think like us, may I point out the number of humans who corrupt themselves and "become" evil in the eyes of many -- they were not evil beforehand, either. In my own religion, many view those individuals as either creating their own Hell or, if "too far along," once in their self-created Hells, able to become demons themselves. (However, there are stories of some of these individuals "escaping Hell" and becoming "good," though it seems to depends on if the name stuck if they are still referred to as demons or still call themselves demons. Psychopaths generally never do escape Hell, but according to the stories do not believe they are evil or simply do not care -- this too could be fuzzy or confusing, as generally the king snake tends to behave like a human psychopath, but as it is normal for the snake's species, is not evil -- psychopaths are generally born psychopaths.) I do agree with you though, Asar, and agree with your tidbit on Lucifer. I'm just being the devil's advocate, so to speak. Grin

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Re: Do you think demons are evil?
Reply #47 - 08/11/12 at 01:02:06

As I said earlier Dear OC in one of the posts ....we use terms interchangeably .. sometimes the same word to refer to our own understanding of abstracts .

And Again as I said i wanted to broaden the discussion a bit. I do not think you are the devils advocate i think you are simply enlightened and has reached an area of thinking that not so many people are able to do . it is hard to detach your belief and think; though belief is important in some cases.

Sometimes i have problems delivering my messages clearly as if i am talking gibberish.. Shocked

I will come back again to your thread but i would like to see what others have to say in the subject.

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