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Lucifer: Good or Evil?
02/04/12 at 08:32:34
 
First of all, I identify as a Christian and probably will remain that way unless another area of faith feels right to me. I do not follow everything exactly and I do have different views than quite a few Christians though I guess that would make me spiritual but I'm still with the religion. Ever since my great aunt who is a reverend moved back to my hometown, I'm really starting to question some things more, obviously not to her or any of my family though.

One of those things is about the angel called Lucifer. According to the Bible, he was casted down from heaven due to him being caught up in his pride. Ever since, he has supposedly been tormenting us and my aunt keeps saying that he attacks people including her. Most Christians either try to forget that he even exists or is defeated or they feel that he attacks people and needs to be stopped. Even people such as psychics who are of different religions or who are just spiritual try to ignore Lucifer or thinks that he is really evil and to avoid him.

For some strange reason, I feel something about those statements aren't right. I was thinking that Lucifer may not be as bad as people have been saying. That is why when the one psychic on another site mentioned that he is a satanist, I ended up exploring it. However, I did not feel right when I viewed the websites and talking to the people from the group on yahoo. Also, there was some sort of negative energy that came onto me at that time that psychics said I was giving off and one of them said the energy was so strong that it attacked him and said it came from me.

Even though all of that stuff happened, I never went back to those sites and ceased all contact with the members. I ended up talking to another psychic on that same site who was talking about how Lucifer never actually became evil and that he never thought he was better than God. I was talking to him about all of that and it seemed to fit like some sort of belief that was in my head about him. He also mentioned that Lucifer isn't evil and is still a great angel very close with God and he comes into our subconscious to try to test our faith to God and see if we remain loyal to him. Basically the psychic said he volunteered to be able to test people to see if they can overcome difficult things and still look up to God without giving up.

I think this story can be kinda linked with a story in Job, not so sure of chapter or verses, but it was about how Lucifer wanted to take everything away from Job to see if he still remained loyal to God and he did.

I just feel that this whole thing the psychic told me fits well with how I see this relationship of Lucifer and God. I just hope that I'm not going down the wrong path even though it feels so right.

A few questions now. I guess I'm kinda in the middle of both sides, the paranormal/psychic side of things and the Christian side of things. My great aunt who claims to talk with God, says things that I really don't think he would say because basically it sounds like hatred. Like how he told her that people will start viewing homosexuality as a sin again and that they are the cause of the messed up weather patterns and some other things not necessarily related with that stuff. She also claimed to see many "evil spirits" such as a human with a dog's head come into her house and had to say the name Jesus 8 times to get rid of it. Could this have been just really a messed up spirit not necessarily associated with Lucifer? Like could there be evil or messed up spirits just there and not controlled by him and that they created their own evil? Also, would God really say that stuff to my aunt even though I know many psychics who claim to talk to God and say that he does not say stuff like that? If it wasn't God she was talking to, who was it?

Don't get me wrong. My family is in tune with the spiritual side of things in a sense I think particularly the women. My grandma and mom were both psychics. My great aunt, the reverend who is my grandma's sister was not a psychic but could see things in the spiritual realm. My grandma was a psychic and did readings for people up until basically she passed away over 7 years ago. My mom was a psychic and wrote a dream book but stopped that stuff when she claimed to see Jesus' face in a coffee cup she was reading. My aunt thinks that psychics are that of Satan and are evil.
Notice how I used the term Satan and not Lucifer. Just about all Christians who refer to Lucifer call him the devil or Satan but not Lucifer. Is that some sort of significance necessarily? When I was visiting the Satanist site, it seems that the Satanist beliefs are that of exactly opposite of God's beliefs. Could that really just be messed up spirits who have this turmoil built up trying to persuade other people to become messed up? Could it be from Lucifer trying to test us to see how many people would be loyal to this "Satan" rather than God?

Another tangent, I went to a pentecostal church for awhile and don't get me wrong they seem very spiritual especially since they believe in the Holy Spirit and it can enter people and some of the members have seen angels in the church before. I have witnessed this because some of them would pass out and then come up and be speaking in a totally different language passing on blessings to other people. However, they believe hatred stuff particularly about homosexuality and believe that the Bible is 100% true. Could it be that my aunt and these people who are in tune with the spiritual realm may be so highly influenced with the religion itself that their views on what they receive from that realm misinterpreted to only fit into their personal characteristics?
I know it's kinda long but hopefully you will read the whole thing. I probably should learn to condense things better.
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Re: Lucifer: Good or Evil?
Reply #1 - 02/04/12 at 22:13:59
 
James ,

Hello you are asking some tough questions and ones that Defo need answering ... You are doing the right things and checking into what things you question..
As for Lucifier and Satan .. I have found this link to be very helpful in understanding ..
http://www.steliart.com/angelology_fallen_archangel.html

I see my Mother in your very Spiritual Aunt.. Follow your heart on this as you said for being Christians she talks hate ... That is how I feel about the things my mother says sometimes .. She is a good woman and loves God dearly ,but takes the Bible very Literal ... I disagree with her as the God of my heart is very loving and doesnt hate man for being gay..
I try not to judge christians even though I call myself one .. I just pray for the hearts of all that we may know the truth in our hearts and step up for what is right in our souls...
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Re: Lucifer: Good or Evil?
Reply #2 - 02/06/12 at 22:37:18
 
Trust your heart.. Smiley

Make checks on yourself though when your attempting to conclude on what your intuiting so that you don't fill in the "blanks" with biases from your conscious/subconscious.

You may not even recognise you are doing this, esp if your words follow well & fill in the blanks of the story you are beginning to understand. BUT check yourself on this every time. I've had to learn this lesson myself.. and this checking never ends.... Smiley

Listen to your heart's intuition(spirit intuition), if the story isn't complete just yet..don't fill in the blanks. Just be patient & all will eventually be concluded on for you~from the Angels.

They will conclude for you much like your own intuition, but there will be a difference~you will sense it & you will know. When you allow them to facilitate your conclusion, you will not need to ask questions here or anywhere.

I could offer what I've intuited but this I know is for you to conclude & trust when you do... but obviously, only after you have check & rechecked the origins. You have the kind of faith in your spirit bond with God & his Divinity that requires very little help from anyone (ppl) since you'll find the answer, the truthful answer, while most others can only recite old & relived biased answers regardless of whether or not they realise.

Trust your heart\your spirit above all that will come into your line of vision.. always.  Wink

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Reply #3 - 02/08/12 at 05:44:42
 
Smiley I'm sorry, need to add a few more things for you..
There is no need for you to attempt to conclude on what your intuition is telling you about Lucifer, your feeling is fine as-is (minus the reasoning him to "test our faith"). That is obviously you adding in a little of "you" or your predispositions into what you intuited. Try not to do that.. other than that, you seem to be doing just fine.

You should research a little more about the Akashic Record. There are some sites/books out there that I can now tell from just a glance or picking up, are Not well-received by my teachers of wisdom or guardians, and there are some that are. You may see this happening to you if you come to work well with your guide/guardians/Angels.

Anyway, a few on this topic are definitely well-received & for you, becoming aware in this realm could really help you to 'put it all together' ..what you feel or intuit.  Smiley
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